Thursday, April 05, 2007

The parents can't be held responsible for a system they can't control. C

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bill a - 11:03am Dec 23, 2006 Central (#1 of 11) Reply

Get INVOLVED with your child's schooling in general and please teach RESPECT for themselves and others. This is a start... everything else will fall into place. In the elementary level each child has to be TAUGHT by the parent to listen and RESPECT one another. Learning comes natural at this age group. Once in secondary or middle school things change and it gets tougher due to the fact kids think peer pressure is more important than school work. Parents don't want to deal with the problems and then the high school level has kids thinking school isn't important enough and NO RESPECT for others is ok.

The fact parents are not held accountable is the main problem and maybe if they were things may turn around. As for homework that can be tough it there is nothing at home to help. If the teacher is aware of this due to parents involvement than something can be done to help. Kids will not say anything the parents need to.


GRusling - 12:33pm Mar 3, 2007 Central (#2 of 11) Reply
"After two years in Washington, I often long for the realism and sincerity of Hollywood." - Fred Thompson

    bill a: The fact parents are not held accountable is the main problem and maybe if they were things may turn around.
That's a red herring.

The parents can't be held responsible for a system they can't control. Chances are good that they are also the product of our public schools, which taught them (just like it's teaching their children) that parents have no say in what goes on at school.

In our public schools, the children are taught that government has the answer to all their problems. Government, in their lives, is represented by the Teachers and Administrators in school and the Police and the Courts outside of school. They know for a fact that, no matter what their "parents" may like, think or want, one of the two sets of people above will make the rules which their parents are also required to abide by.

Parents, for instance, can't decide how to dress their children in many cases. The school adopts a "uniform" and all students are required to wear that uniform, whether the "parents" like it or not! The parents are therefore, portrayed and presented to their children as powerless and not even qualified to choose clothing for their own children.

Another example:

If a child is sick and must miss school, a simple note from a Parent was once sufficient to identify the need for that absence. No longer! Now, the student must present a note from a Doctor, teaching that child that their parents aren't to be believed or trusted, even to tell the truth!

You've quickly taught that child two things. First, that their parents can't be trusted, even to dress them properly and second, that the government (which has all the answers) doesn't even trust the parents honesty! After teaching the children that their parents are less than honest and not very bright, you suggest holding parents responsible when their children no longer listen to or trust those parents?

Your logic escapes me, probably because it does not exist...


Hank Williams - 08:15pm Mar 8, 2007 Central (#3 of 11) Reply

Another fantasy. I have a child in public school and have never had need for a note from a doctor.


Arthur Brooks - 03:22pm Mar 24, 2007 Central (#4 of 11) Reply

one time all the city swimming pools were closed except the natatorium. My neighbor's twin 12 year old daughters and their two friends came over to use my phone.

They wanted to call the natatorium to see what time it opened. I gave them the telephone book. First they looked in the yellow pages for pools. Then they looked for swimming pools. Then they began arguing among themselves where to look next.

I said look up city GOVERNMENT because it's a city pool. They said what's that? The arguing began again until one finally said, "listen to what he is saying"

I finally took the telephone book away and found their number. They called and went swimming.

Government What's that? Public school children.


Hank Williams - 08:49pm Mar 24, 2007 Central (#5 of 11) Reply

You are definately more educated than a 12 year old.


bill a - 10:35am Mar 25, 2007 Central (#6 of 11) Reply

GRusling, Let's see what I can respond to since my wife is a teacher and I personally have dealt with students being involved with her career and becoming a teacher in a few years myself can bring out.

First off you haven't apparently been in the schools... High Schools in Corpus Christi as of late. The problem comes from Parents who don't care and lets the child take the same attitude. Fake phone numbers to call parents, parents who control the teachers because of no backbone of the administration of the school.We can't have irrate parents. See if a kid walking to or from school has a book in their hand...Hard pressed to see that. Kids spitting on teachers or throwing things at them without them being punished and if a teacher touches them in any way they are at fault.

Government involvement... No child left behind... ha, both Bush and Kennedy need a wake up call. Push these kids through to become hamburger flippers at their favorite fast food restaurant.

Here are you statements: Parents, for instance, can't decide how to dress their children in many cases. The school adopts a "uniform" and all students are required to wear that uniform, whether the "parents" like it or not! The parents are therefore, portrayed and presented to their children as powerless and not even qualified to choose clothing for their own children There are no uniforms in High school just dress codes. Parents are no longer powerless. You must be talking about elementary schools due to the unequal socio-economic statues. That way class work is more important than what you are wearing or who has more than another.

If a child is sick and must miss school, a simple note from a Parent was once sufficient to identify the need for that absence. No longer! Now, the student must present a note from a Doctor, teaching that child that their parents aren't to be believed or trusted, even to tell the truth!

Kids make up their own notes and parents are kept in the dark when papers ar


bill a - 09:46pm Mar 27, 2007 Central (#7 of 11) Reply

Kids make up their own notes for being sick and forge the parents name. Parents are kept in the dark when papers are handed out to the students to take home for their parents to see. Now e-mail is used to contact the parent and the nurse has the real numbers to call.

You must read a lot and listen to others who are not in the same boat as teachers of Corpus Christi.


dannoynted1 - 02:48am Apr 4, 2007 Central (#8 of 11) Reply

I suggest the teachers contact their representative they pay dues to how upset they are about the situation.

I know for a fact there are some schools who operate illegally by having too many children for 1 teacher. Does the CCISD Board know there is a limit as to how many children per class? They are not accountable because they do not have a boss. why are they wasting our time , our children's time and money, CCISD parents are waiting for them to do the right thing. WE are sick of the crap "searching for years paying welder , leshin and Rick Perry's Personal Attorney for NOTHING! 45k?

WE want someone we know,after all "we're from Here"~ waste waste they need to get with program.

They were not elected to be~ "business oriented"~what newly elected CCISD Board member said that?

OH and that idiot just let us all know she is NOT "education oriented"

why is the school getting paid to break the law?

The TAKS test is a joke when there is no wrong answer in the choices since the question is neither a fact or opinion question; the questions are not objective except for the purpose of the knowledge of HOW the child answers.

there is no "benchmark" at which to gauge what exactly it is they are.

At least when we took the CAT test there was a right and wrong answer. not someones IDEA of what they can make up to get more money out of the children of Corpus Christi Texas.


dannoynted1 - 03:38am Apr 4, 2007 Central (#9 of 11) Reply

I suggest the teachers contact their representative they pay dues to how upset they are about the situation.

I know for a fact there are some schools who operate illegally by having too many children for 1 teacher. Does the CCISD Board know there is a limit as to how many children per class? They are not accountable because they do not have a boss. why are they wasting our time , our children's time and money, CCISD parents are waiting for them to do the right thing. WE are sick of the crap "searching for years paying welder , leshin and Rick Perry's Personal Attorney for NOTHING! 45k?

WE want someone we know,after all "we're from Here"~ waste waste they need to get with program.

They were not elected to be~ "business oriented"~what newly elected CCISD Board member said that?

OH and that idiot just let us all know she is NOT "education oriented"

why is the school getting paid to break the law?

The TAKS test is a joke when there is no wrong answer in the choices since the question is neither a fact or opinion question; the questions are not objective except for the purpose of the knowledge of HOW the child answers.

There is no "benchmark" at which to gauge what exactly it is they are.

At least when we took the CAT test there was a right and wrong answer. not someones IDEA of what they can make up to get more money out of the children of Corpus Christi Texas.

The TAKS test has nothing to do with the SAT or ACT....WHY NOT? Because there is no MONEY in it for the State. But how are they doing since the TAKS was implemented? Better or worse on these 2 tests?

I bet there are less now who even take the test. how many drop out each year? how many? I know the CCISD Board of trustees could not even tell you! because they do not CARE1

THEY need A boss and CCISD parents are working people who take their kids to school wash their clothes, do the dishes, feed them and the dog. Is it too much to ask for people to DO their JOB?

I guess


dannoynted1 - 03:40am Apr 4, 2007 Central (#10 of 11) Reply

I guess Welder, Leshin & Mahaffey,w/Colleen McHugh in tow did their JOB, they were able to rip off the CCISD children of $45 thousand dollars with the nothing to show. They are fired and i Believe the CCISD children are owed that money for nothing and i guess the trick was for free.

Mr. Eliff is the choice.

CCISD Board of Trustees just do not want a boss.

So who is the one picking and choosing what to wear, CCISD does not want to be told what to do, so, that is why, they are happy to mess with the teachers the parents and the students anyone but themselves.

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Hank Williams - 08:01am Apr 4, 2007 Central (#11 of 11) Reply

Your meds need to be adjusted again.
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