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Ray H.S. student targeted in shooting
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Originally published 10:52 a.m., April 28, 2008
Updated 10:52 a.m., April 28, 2008
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CORPUS CHRISTI — Corpus Christi police are looking for a white four-door Mercury in connection with a shooting late Sunday.
Six shots were fired into a home on Moravian Drive before 10:30 p.m. Police believe the bullets were intended for a Ray High School student. The victim told police that was having problems with a gang member at Ray High School.
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Post 1 April 28, 2008 at 10:59 a.m.
why are gang members allowed in school to begin with. Shouldn't there be like a gangbanger school where they can all go and shoot each other for finals and then we good citizens do not have to worry about them.
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Post 2 April 28, 2008 at 11:04 a.m.
Ray has never had control of their school. And are allowed to dress how they want. This is where ccisd needs to take control.
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Post 3 April 28, 2008 at 11:05 a.m.
Ten years ago the CCPD had the gang situation under control. We have regressed. The gangbanging and tagging are completely out of control in this community. The entire community needs to step up and take action or these two problems will be our downfall.
BB
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Post 4 April 28, 2008 at 11:07 a.m.
I live on what the city calls a collector street. I see school buses before and after school and most are empty. The only full one is the thug bus. These thugs have to wear shirts and ties at school.
Off the bus the ties hang out of their pockets and their pants are below the crotch. They learn nothing.
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Post 5 April 28, 2008 at 11:07 a.m.
Losers shooting Losers - if enough of them take each other out - hopefully there won't be any left to shoot.
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Post 7 April 28, 2008 at 11:10 a.m.
I think every teen should have to go to some type of boot camp. I think they should have everything that they take for granted, taken away from them. And slowly, earn it back. They have absolutely zero respect for anything. I also think gangbangers need to be shipped to a separate place, and let them eliminate themselves. Too many individuals are inncoent bystanders that have to deal with the leftovers that these disrespectful teens leave behind.
~Dev
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Post 8 April 28, 2008 at 11:10 a.m.
.Decent honest citizens need to be protected from this gunfire.
I would say that six shots means they mean business, so what provoked them to do this dangerous thing to another citizen.
Why can't everyone just be law-abiding and get along.
Life is short enough as it is.
What will happen if the gang members are caught who did this shooting, will they get a slap on the wrist or what?
Most of us just go to work and pay our taxes and tend to our families. Maybe they don't have enough to do so they go around shooting into houses.......?
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Post 9 April 28, 2008 at 11:14 a.m.
Leave it to Corpus Christi---The city has done nothing to alleviate the gang problem we have here. I can't be at our local "mall" without fear of someone pulling out a gun. The way people dress freaks me out! Even the parents are covered in tattoos from head to toe. It makes me fearful to send my children to school here. I'm not saying that there aren't problems in other cities--we all know that's not the case--BUT Corpus Christi's gang problem is out of control compared to the population size.
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Post 10 April 28, 2008 at 11:15 a.m.
Ms. Hooks, the new education director, that Skippy hired should be handling these situations. After all, she makes well over $80,000.00 per year.
FF
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Post 11 April 28, 2008 at 11:16 a.m.
I drove down Kostoryz Road and Carroll Lane yesterday. Practically every fence, building, and utility box was tagged w/gang symbols. Frankly, it turned my stomach. The court system needs to provide some real punishment to these offenders. It is obvious these delinquents have little fear of our justice system.
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Post 12 April 28, 2008 at 11:17 a.m.
What ever happened to the days when if two people had a conflict/disagreement they would just duke it out man to man. Now days it seems that these wanna be wise guys don't have the balls to handle things on their own. They are afraid to fight one-on-one. Probably because they know, they will get their butts kicked and leave them humiliated. Thats why they attack in numbers because they don't know the meaning of the word individual nor do they know what having an identity or self respect is all about!
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Post 13 April 28, 2008 at 11:18 a.m.
Post 11.....Ms. Hooks will take care of these problems. Skippy hired her for well over $80,000.00 per year.
FF
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Post 14 April 28, 2008 at 11:20 a.m.
they need to put camera's in that area to eliminate the problem and catch taggers etc.
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Post 15 April 28, 2008 at 11:25 a.m.
Forget about the boys, I think we need to start with the girls. Girls need to learn to love and respect themselves. Girls need to have goals and work towards them. Girls are the answer to all the gang problems.
Ok, let me explain. If the girls had self respect, they wouldn't want gangbanger boys. If the girls had goals, they wouldn't want gangbanger boys. All boys want girls but if the girls made it clear to them that they don't want some low life, pant hanging, graffiti punk, then maybe the boys would want to better themselves too.
You really don't hear much about homosexual gangbangers so if no girls wanted to go out with them until they straightened out their lives, then maybe something would change.
Ok, I know, it's time for my meds. lol
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Post 16 April 28, 2008 at 11:26 a.m.
Losers shooting losers. I like that analysis! We need to round up these deadbeats and send them off to I don't care where. One of them mess with me and he goes DOWN - permanently! Like underground down! I pack and I will use it. Flakes!
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Post 17 April 28, 2008 at 11:29 a.m.
Post 12, I agree with you but you said man to man that is the problem these are punks. Post 1, has the right idea. These people are not really productive members of society anyway, no loss at all.
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Post 18 April 28, 2008 at 11:32 a.m.
We need to make gulags for these types of characters and let them pound rocks in the desert sun. Bring the chain gang back for these offenders.
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Post 19 April 28, 2008 at 11:38 a.m.
For years it has been almost illegal to discipline your kids. Any thing but a time out is child abuse. Kids know this, and use it to their advantage. The problem we have with gangs isn't because alot of parents don't care, they are afraid of going to jail if discipline has to go to extreme.
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Post 20 April 28, 2008 at 11:38 a.m.
They have NO RESPECT for themselves and for others. They were not brought up to respect anything and that is why some of them live in the places they do...poor areas sometimes but I am of the belief that a poor area does not have to look like a dump. These "dumps" happen BECAUSE such people lack respect for themselves, others, and their surroudings. it means nothing for them to shot someone else and if someone shoots them their attitude is "Well, I guess my number came up." They just don't care and there is not a program on CARE 101 out there. It has to come from the home unless they have a dump for a home and a family.
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Post 21 April 28, 2008 at 11:41 a.m.
I bet these kids families, especially their moms, coddled them. They were always there defending them when they knew their kid was wrong. I've seen it so many times and so have you if you are a teacher out there.
The kid does no wrong. It's always the other kid's fault, or the teacher's fault, or the school's fault.
Bad parents.
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Post 22 April 28, 2008 at 11:43 a.m.
Yes, I think there has been a decline in our getting a grip on the gang problem. It seemed there for a while we were getting a better handle on it. What happened?
Do we need Jim Kaelin to step in? I bet he'd have this place cleaned up within a year or less. Gang members would be peeing in their baggy pants.
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Post 23 April 28, 2008 at 11:44 a.m.
Post 2
Your right! Well I wouldn’t say never had control. Ray was a good school up until Mr. Gonzalez took over and now he is out. Dr. Dorsey and Dr. Scott were great for the school. I graduated in 06 and it was at least a decent school but now it is poor. I pass by Ray everyday and I see students wearing what they want. What happened to the dress code these kids look ugly. Also the school police and administration are doing a poor job of keeping the kids in class. Pass by Ray anytime of the day and you’ll see kid crossing Staples or standing in front of the old gym. Pass by at 2:30 and you’ll see kid leaving the school. Come on I know all those kids don’t have enough credits to leave early and I doubt their even seniors. We need strict authority at Ray. Not laid back people that throw the upper class students troubles under the rug. And one more thing someone please but and tear down the apartments behind the soccer and football fields, which are infested with drugs and gangs. I’ve witness fights and drug users in those apartments. Clean up Ray and the apartments around it!
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Post 24 April 28, 2008 at 11:46 a.m.
Serilize all drop outs . . . . These losers are too lazy to work so all they do is drugs and breed more little gang bangers.
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Post 25 April 28, 2008 at 11:46 a.m.
I think we need to elect former mayor of Alice, Grace Saenz-Lopez to get this situation under control...
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Post 26 April 28, 2008 at 11:50 a.m.
These kids in school? Not all the time. They have either dropped out or they come in when they fele like it. Gang members do not see schoolng as a priority only as a place to make contact with other gang members.
I say Mrs. Hooks be in charge of gang members caught and puts them in an educational program so they can find a career and enter our work force. Isn't this her job description?
So, while I'm at it....what has she done so far in her new capacity? Anyone out there who works for her or with her know? If Skiip Noe gives us a report you know it will be glossed up.
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Post 27 April 28, 2008 at 11:51 a.m.
Pull your pants up, drop the gun and fight like a man! I think they use guns to compensate for a lack of something........
RR
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Post 28 April 28, 2008 at 11:56 a.m.
They should count all the people who live in that house and then charge them with attempted murder for each person who resides in the house that was shot. They should do this with every drive by. Make it a crime to be in a gang and like they do in someplaces, don't let them congregate in groups of no more than 3.
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Post 29 April 28, 2008 at 11:56 a.m.
I saw some punk thug kids at HEB on Kostoryz. A couple of the thug girls were wearing t-shirts when some punk's name and dates. I asked one of the girls why they were wearing those t-shirts. She said it was one of their "homeboys" that got killed and they all got matching t-shirts. Seriously, she used the word "homeboys". I asked her how he got killed (acting sympathetic but just really being nosey), she said he got in a fight with his ex-girlfriend's brother and the brother shot him. I looked at the dates on the t-shirt and realized the boy was just 16. They were glorifying him and who knows, there will probably be retaliation against the shooter. Then we will see some more thug girls with the shooter's name and dates and the saga continues.
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Post 30 April 28, 2008 at 11:58 a.m.
2 and 23, you are right.
Ray lost it's luster some time ago. I, too, witnessed a decline when Mr. Steve Gonzalez was the principal. He was very nice and a "good ole boy" with everyone but the school AND the scores took a dramatic decline under his watch. No one wants to admit this because they liked him so much but such people become/became part of the Ray HS problem.
Oh, guess who took care of the discipline at Ray HS while Mr. Gonzalez was principal? MR. GONZALEZ. I rest my case.
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Post 31 April 28, 2008 at 12:06 p.m.
lets hope they don't educated like post 24
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Post 32 April 28, 2008 at 12:07 p.m.
CRAZY!!!! I heard about 2 5th graders at Luther Jones with a gun and one kid had the bullets!!!! I haven't heard it on the news...I know one of the parents whose child attends the school. What is wrong with these kids!!!!!!!!
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Post 33 April 28, 2008 at 12:13 p.m.
I think drug money is what supports most of the gangs and you don't need a high school education to sell drugs. They all know that. And school is just like lost money, because it is a little harder to sell when you're sitting in class. Without all the drug money, they'll have to find jobs and to find jobs they'll have to get an education.... so number one, we need to get a grip on the drug problem, which is the hardest thing to do.
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Post 34 April 28, 2008 at 12:18 p.m.
Voc classes are a part of the solution.
Kids do not respect what they can never achieve...
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Post 35 April 28, 2008 at 12:24 p.m.
When I'm president I will institute a day where all gang bangers are allowed to kill eachother without repercussions. As long as the fill out the proper paper work. Of course.
If you have a beef for an opposing gang, simply stroll down to city hall, fill out the proper paper work and wait for , or I don't... Say April 20th to come round and problems will take care of themselves.
If you hurt or kill innocents (Non affliated) then you will be dealt with on the spot.
If you can not find your target, sorry holmes you gotta wait till next year.
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Post 36 April 28, 2008 at 12:28 p.m.
this event did not happen at ray hs, it just involves a ray hs student........much ado about nothing if you ask me....just typical gangbanging......this isnt a ray hs problem it is a corpus problem and until the ccpd gets control then you will see more drugs, graffitti and 14 year old getting killed when they should be in school.
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Post 37 April 28, 2008 at 12:36 p.m.
PARENTS.....PARENTS.....PARENTS CALLING ALL RESPONISIBLE PARENTS.... NO ANSWER.
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Post 38 April 28, 2008 at 12:37 p.m.
36...it is a Ray HS problem. Don't think for one minute that kid keeps his problem within his home. He brings it to school, he brings it home, and takes it back to school. Anywhere in-between is still afflicted.
I bet the teachers at Ray HS would disagree with you.
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Post 39 April 28, 2008 at 12:39 p.m.
Where is the "Sad times, bro" person?
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Post 40 April 28, 2008 at 12:51 p.m.
Post 39
OMG, don't be so stupid and draw this idiot out.
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Post 41 April 28, 2008 at 12:59 p.m.
Post 29: I am so glad I am not the only one who feels this way.
I live in a very nice apartment complex in Downtown, last night I was awakened at 3 am by slamming doors and shouting. I put on my robe and went outside into the hallway. This guy walks towards me, he looks exactly like the kid I caught breaking into my car last year. Shaved head, undershirt, and khakis down so I can see his underwear. He tells me that his "Homeboy" was freaking out, that’s what the noise was. I was mildly afraid in my own apartment, I checked to make sure the door was locked three times after I went back inside. I don't know anything about him, but at 3am he represented himself as a scary thug.
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Post 42 April 28, 2008 at 1:04 p.m.
My sons graduated from Ray about 10, and 12 years ago. Ray was still a good school. My sons graduated and are not thugs, nor gangers..they are decent, went on to college and are now law abiding citizens that contribute to CC with good jobs and good families. Then again, neither of us have ugly tatoos on our bodies, we respect others and others properties..and we do not do graffetti to claim our "territory"..we pay taxes for them..All the posts are stating the same feeling, we have a big problem with these people. The have no respect for nothing, only their homies..please!! What can be done? Well, nothing is being done and it is a shame, they are like roaches, just mulitplying and infesting the city..they are spreading everywhere..not just the "other side of town." Help, we do need it. Yes, do drive by Ray, that I myself have seen, about 3:30 or 4 p....they do not respect the crossing lines..perhaps they do not know how to read or follow instructions, but they come out of everywhere..and take their sweet time crossing, or maybe they have to walk slowlyyyyy..because they will lose their pants. Never thought of that...maybe? The parents DO have alot to do with their kids, or are they Biopolar? dressing the right way going to school and change personalities at school I just do not understand and this is our future population, where are we headed to? God protect us all. But the laws have done more damage than good, with the child abuse laws that you cannot repremend your kids for wrong doing. It is a shame. The respect your parents idea went out the window long ago, along with good morals, as with the cheap gas price..that is a thing of the past.. Help us all...
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Post 43 April 28, 2008 at 1:04 p.m.
Post 5 and 37: You got that right!!
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Post 45 April 28, 2008 at 1:08 p.m.
#37.....
Please don't bother me right now! I am busy being a Sr. Homeboy while the school watches my homeboy jr.
I'm too busy smoking a joint & snorting some cocaine! I've got tons of chores to do today including getting some more ammunition, stopping in for some spray paint, buying some Ziplock baggies to bag up the dope so Jr can sell to all (his) homeboys and if I have any money left over, I might head on over to the tattoo parlor to complete my full body tattoo! So don't bother me. I'm a parent of a homeboy and PROUD OF IT! ....(sarcasm)
My son came home they other day and said....."I'm so gansta, I don't have any pants!" lol
His pants were around his ankles when he did this. I laughed, because that is what the good kids think of gangs. lol
(for those of you that don't get it) we are talking about those pathetic pants they wear below their buttocks.! It's the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. And it's funny to watch them walk trying to keep them from falling off!
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Post 46 April 28, 2008 at 1:15 p.m.
I KEEP REMEMBERING THE BABY IN THE BACK SEAT WHEN THE MOM'S BOYFRIEND GOT SHOT OVER ON GREENWOOD NOT TOO LONG AGO.......FUTURE GANGBANGER!!!!!!
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Post 47 April 28, 2008 at 1:31 p.m.
Kids these days..eh? Again, we all know it begins at home. The problem is, is that most of the parents are single parent families and the moms (if decent respectable citizens) are trying their best to raise their family. If not, there is no father figure present and the moms are out at all hours of the night in bars, trying to find a new daddy so of course, the kids that should be home doing homework and getting themselves to bed are out running around and causing trouble. Most of these kids that are in gangs and tagging, shooting, and acting a fool do it because no one else in their life cares about them. They feel like they are so macho and can call the shots of their own life and no one's going to tell them what they have to do or don't do. If one of these little boys was actually confronted face to face with someone not afraid to beat the living crap out of him, he would revert back to that little boy he is, cry for his mama and run away trying to hold his pants up! Sometimes, I see these thugs j-walking and taking their sweet ass time trying to cross the street and they can barely move because with every step they have to hold their crotch so their pants don't fall down. Just once I wish one of them would trip and I could scare him by revving my engine as though I would run him over! Just once.....
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Post 48 April 28, 2008 at 1:33 p.m.
Have you ever noticed how the thug has to walk with his legs spread apart so the pants don't fall down?
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Post 49 April 28, 2008 at 1:38 p.m.
Yes I have, and it is PATHETIC! lol!
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Post 50 April 28, 2008 at 1:48 p.m.
Parents are to blame, but so is the government. The loss of respect in schools started in the 60's when prayer was taken out of school. I don't care what anyone says, kids need to know there is Someone in charge and they will answer for their deeds. Just my opinion.
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Post 51 April 28, 2008 at 2:04 p.m.
makes me glad that i wasn't rasied in corpus christi...this town is a joke..the only place i would school my children would be the calallen or gregory portland area...the rest of this is just trashy violence...and the ccpd doesnt even care..they're too busy busting up some party way out in the middle of no where to be on the scene when some poor kid's house gets shot up..its a joke..the best i can hope for is that people learn how to vote for the right people
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Post 52 April 28, 2008 at 2:08 p.m.
POST 50, 19, 20 absolutely correct.
Respect for adult and each other is lost. When I was growing up my dad and mom got the belt and i got whipped if i did something bad which i "occationally did"(maybe talk back). Carry a gun? no Have a knife? no Cruise around town? get real. we had bikes and played outside no Xbox Wii nothing like that. Kept me and my friends in line and we had to go to church regardless. The friends who's parents always worked or were never there for them, are the ones who decided to start smoking weed and drinking and stealing. I aint saying they all went wrong but the majority had no discipline and some are still struggling. MOM & DAD they are your kids. You have to choose between making the big bucks or being there for your kids. I'd choose my kids everytime even if i have to struggle to make ends meet.
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Post 53 April 28, 2008 at 2:13 p.m.
Post 24!
I agree with you! STERILIZE these punks so they do not multiply. Male and female! STERILIZE!
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Post 54 April 28, 2008 at 2:14 p.m.
It's time to bring back the paddle!!! I know it scared that crap out of me when I was in High School.
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Post 55 April 28, 2008 at 2:15 p.m.
Accountability, thats the word not practiced here. Why? because every governmental agency wants to tell parents how to raise their kids. Kids are not held accountable for mouthing off at their teachers, principals, elders etc. Once upon a time I remember my mother going off with a back hand across my big mouth when I disrespected people just because I thought I could. Im not that old, Im in my 30's and let me tell you I would give anything for all the punks to have my mother growing up. Even now, my mom is discipline first with the grandkids. They know better than to break rules and disrespect in her house. I have two nieces and one nephew that are school aged and let me tell you, they know exactly what the consequences are going to be if they choose to lose their minds and start acting like these little thugs. I tell them all the time, "you want to act like an idiot thug, then you'll get sent to the same place all idiot thugs get sent, JAIL/PRISON to live among the other idiots." They know that we love them and we do not hesitate to give them love and attention rewards when they do well but they also know that when you start acting like a fool, your gonna get what comes with it. Accountability. parents we're not telling you to stop caring or standing by your child but when you know they are a big part of the problem or are the big problem stop putting the blame on others. Stand by them but dont take the punishment away. They have to know what consequences are to their actions. They cant go through life thinking "Oh my mom will take care of it, all she has to do is go to the school, etc start yelling and cursing and dropping names and then things will be better, I can come back to school with the same attitude that gets me in trouble and if they want to start with me, Ill just tell my mom". Sound familiar. I have worked in different areas and depts and know that this is exactly what happens. I see it all the time. No conflict resolution skills so they want to try to win the argument with an argument. Then what do the kids learn? Aggression, the only form of conflict resolution they know. They use it why? Because its learned and they know most people will try their hardest to avoid parents like this so they do and say things to give them there way and show them lack of what? Accountability. How does the gov't way in? Every form of discipline is child abuse. Then they teach this to the kids and the kids use it against their parents, parents are afraid to discipline for fear of getting in trouble and losing their kids. All understandable. And we wonder why we can take control. Peace be with eveyone.
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Post 56 April 28, 2008 at 2:19 p.m.
Post 45...so very true.
I wish "these" gangers would read what we all think of them. I think this Ray HS kid and his parents should be made to read all our comments so they know what we really think of them and all who are like them. We are not happy campers.
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Post 57 April 28, 2008 at 2:27 p.m.
Ray HS is trying very hard to get it together by getting out of that low performing label. The school went down hill because the people at the helm let it go down. It went down performance wise because they did not oversee what was going on or not going on in the classrooms regarding real teaching. Some teachers got lax because that is what was modeled for them by the administrators on that campus.
Part of Ray's problem is the gang problem they have on campus. Imagine trying to teach these thugs...when they do come to class.
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Post 58 April 28, 2008 at 2:41 p.m.
I think Ray High School has a work/study program. They need to hire a 16 year old that lifts weights, rides bulls and hits like a mule, to walk the hallways with a half - grin, half smirk.
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Post 59 April 28, 2008 at 2:47 p.m.
Listen, before everyone gets all upset. Remember, these are just kids. Haven't you ever done anything mischievous when you were a kid. You never stayed out later that what your parents told you to. You never talked back to your parents. Everyone has done something mischievous in their lives, and if you say that you haven't , then you are lying. I don't think these kids need boot camp or harsh punishment like you all are suggesting. Maybe they are just yearning for someone to listen, respect, and pay attention to them. I think that with support, these so called gangbangers could make model citizens in our community. Also, don't blame the parents, because with the way our economy is today, both parents have to work to make ends meet, so they can't give their kids their complete divided attention that these children yearn for. It is not the kids fault, nor is it the parent's fault. And yes before you say it, I am a liberal.
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Post 60 April 28, 2008 at 2:57 p.m.
Post 59...you only want to stir things up with the comments already expressed here. You have written some of the very same things on another topic at another time. I recognize your words.
Sounds like you can eradicate the gang problem. Go to it. I think we will try just about anything to get this issue resolved so the rest of us can live safe lives.
Trading places? Maybe you should consider living wtih a ganger family. I bet you will change your tune real fast.
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Post 61 April 28, 2008 at 3:08 p.m.
Mandatory military service - minimum 2 years if you're not in school...2 summers if you are. And the service is NOT teaching thugs how to be better thugs - it's community service and brush clearing and house building, etc. After two years, the thugs will become obvious - and they won't be allowed to join the actual service, or be trained in warfare. I understand the flaws and possible misuse or abuse of authority, BUT something has to be done !
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Post 62 April 28, 2008 at 3:11 p.m.
Good golly 59, I'm consider myself a liberal too, but what are you thinking. Children aren't raised in a vacuum. Of course the parents have created what these bangers are. If you're not married, don't unzip your pants or spread your legs. If you do have a baby, do all the hard work it takes to raise a child. Don't park them in front of a TV because you're tired. For God's sake, don't smoke weed or crack because it makes you feel better. Word hard, pull yourself up and make damn sure your child goes on to a better life than you have.
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Post 63 April 28, 2008 at 3:11 p.m.
Post 59, seems like you want to put the blame on the government only. Although they are to blame for a few things but it all starts at home. Both parents having to work is no excuse, both my parents worked allot but I came out fine because of the values they taught me.
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Post 64 April 28, 2008 at 3:21 p.m.
POST 59: Seriously! Seriously??? Wow..."just kids!" So was the guy who shot up Virginia Tech, just a kid? Is that how you would justify what he did? Should he get just a slap on the wrist as well? Try telling that to the families of those who lost their life because of some kid. It does related because a 'gang banger' can do just as much damage as this guy did.
Yes, they are kids but it's far past the point of just wanting someone to listen and pay attention. Discipline and jail time needs to be served, it is ridiculous now. It is really sad when you can't walk around on a school campus without fearing for you life! I attend Texas A&M Kingsville and whether it is a university or high school nowadays it is so bad that you have to watch your back everywhere you go. I have been on the Ray H.S. campus and NO I did not feel safe at all! I saw students in the hallways when class was in session and students out of dress code. One student was out in the hall arguing with a teacher using foul language and yelling. I'm sorry but it is way past the point of just sitting with them and listening.
As far as it not being the parents fault, you're crazy! It all starts at the home! Yes people need to earn a living and pay bills I understand that. However, my mother is a single working mother *full time* who has 2 kids who were never in trouble with the law, respected their authority figures whether it be in school, work or at home, we graduated top of our class and are now both in college. Why is it so hard for these families that have BOTH parents to keep track of their kids? It is just lack of responsibilty on their part!
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Post 65 April 28, 2008 at 3:26 p.m.
Post 59 is right. These kids need the love from our Corpus Christi "village." Hope and Change will make them productive citizens. The city should start some more programs to help them like firearm safety, skeet/trap shooting, and target shooting. We already have the grafitti program (Wow! What an idea!) Only through these positive programs will their attitudes become positive and they can be transformed into productive community members. We need to start by loving them.
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Post 66 April 28, 2008 at 3:36 p.m.
post 59 WAKE UP AND SMELL THE YEAR 2008. EVERYONE WANTS SOMETHING AND WANTS IT NOW. GANGBANGERS WILL GET IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. PARENTS FORGET IT, UNLESS YOU GUIDED YOUR CHILDREN IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WHEN THEY WERE STILL YOUNG AND WANTING TO BE A GOOD GUY/GIRL ,,,FORGET IT. THEY WILL NOT LISTEN AFTER THEY HAVE GOTTEN A TASTE OF FREEDOM TO DO WHATERVER THEY WANT AND WHENEVER THEY WANT IT, AND GOTTEN AWAY WITH IT. THEY WILL DO IT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND NO ONE CAN DO ANYTHING TO STOP THEM UNTIL JAIL OR DEATH. THAT IS WHY CHILDREN NEED ATTENTION WHEN THEY ARE BORN UNTIL THEY BECOME ADULTS AND ON THEIR OWN.
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Post 67 April 28, 2008 at 3:47 p.m.
Post 64 you're right. Once you have kids its no longer about you. You do what you have to do to ensure their safety, education, etc. Once they are grown or off to college then I understand. Researchs hows that we are extending our life expectancy, so there will be plenty of time for YOU later. That or take care of yourself before you have kids until later in life. One way or another, take responsibility and don't make all of society pay for your mistakes.
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Post 68 April 28, 2008 at 4:31 p.m.
WHAT! Coddle them even more? Your kidding. These kids know the difference between right and wrong, they just don't care. It is apathy! So how do we make them care?
~Dev
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Post 69 April 28, 2008 at 4:33 p.m.
Here I am post 39.
Sad Times Bro......Sad Times
Happy Now?
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Post 70 April 28, 2008 at 4:36 p.m.
Its our fault as parents. I know people have to make a living but my dad worked and mom stayed home to raise us. We all sacrificed but it payed of. We cant keep blaming society, the economy, president bush and everyone else. I raise my kids and if i do a bad job its my fault. I am to blame.
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Post 71 April 28, 2008 at 4:41 p.m.
Post 59: Gotta say....that's the stupidest thing I seen posted in a long time. "Just kids"? Yeah, I did some stupid things as a child...none of them involved pumping bullets into somebody's house. Maybe you're home could be a half-way house for these "mischievous" youth?
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Post 72 April 28, 2008 at 7:48 p.m.
May somebody share information of King High School?
My daughter will be atttending King this coming year and I want
to know any information to prepare me for what is to come.
I have a set date for a meeting with the principal in a week to walk the campus but I am scared! I hope this school is a safe school.
All the comments on Ray High School are very sad.
Thank you everyone.
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Post 73 April 28, 2008 at 8:11 p.m.
We need to take back the streets. Whenever one of our kids is harrased in school by a punk,loser gangmember, then we as parents need to gather together and hunt these punks down who beat, shot, stabbed or jumped our kid and eliminate them from this earth. The police can only do so much and it's not their fault that these losers are roaming the streets. We as parents want the best for our kids and so we need to protect them. We outnumber these loser punks and I guarantee they will think twice about beating up on our kids when they start to see many of their gang friends disappearing and being found later in a shallow grave in some ranch. That's when we say," That's a shame". :)
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Post 74 April 28, 2008 at 8:21 p.m.
King High School has its problems too. It is VERY crowded.
Ray H.S. isn't any worse than any other H.S. in the district. Each of them has their fair share of students who have no problems cussing out a teacher. Each and every single school has a number of gang members as part of their student body. No school is immune to it.
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Post 75 April 28, 2008 at 9:14 p.m.
What is there at school except drilling for the stupid TAKS test? The schools are forced to drill students to test a really low level of learning. It's boring and when they are bored they are going to create their own curriculum. Our education system no longer exists. It is all about accountability and the politicians are running the show rather than the educators. Let the educators make decisions about the schools and not the politicians. We are not turning out any critical thinkers.
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Post 76 April 28, 2008 at 10:09 p.m.
Well said 75! The TAKS is scaring off teachers.
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Post 77 April 28, 2008 at 10:22 p.m.
I bet I ruined post 40's day with post 69.
Singed,
The Sad Times Bro imposter.
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Post 78 April 28, 2008 at 10:54 p.m.
Post 77:
Nah...nobody's really paying any attention to you anymore...it got old and boring.
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Post 79 April 28, 2008 at 11:04 p.m.
Post 72: Each local public high school is equally affected by gangs. Don't think for one minute that King does not harbor gangers. I will say that I feel that the school district understands the problems in the high schools. It's just so colossal to address. I think each campus works hard to address these type of issues.
You just have to make sure that you are involved in your child's school. Make sure that you already have good communication with your child so she/her will not be afraid to tell you anthing that happens at school or at other places he/she hangs out.
If your child is a strong student, he/she will at least be in some good classes where the teachers teach and the kids want to learn. You just want to make sure that your child tells you at the beginning of the school year about how the classes are going. If you feel your child will do better in another class because of the discipline then I suggest you address the issue with the principal.
Don't be afraid. If you are afraid then your child will also be afraid. You must be strong. GET A GRIP. Know that this can make your child a more mature and stronger student. In 4 years your child will be in college and more independent. You want your child ready to face such independence so what happens in high school will only help him/her address a totally new environment
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Post 80 April 29, 2008 at 12:21 a.m.
Those bullets didn't slam into innocent parties and no paybacks at school, k? This week is TAKS tests - very very very important for everything to be cool. My kid is still on the phone and almost grounded for ignoring me. So I have time to wish to the parents that your kids have good luck on the TAKS.
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Post 81 April 29, 2008 at 12:46 a.m.
If you are moving to the Corpus area, and want you're daughter/son attending a good school ditrict, I would recommend GPISD. If you are tired of the traffic congestion on the southside, or the over flowing population of king and carroll, move to Portland and attend a non-crowded really good academic school.(GP High)
Their new HS has a capacity of 2400 students, and they only have about 1400 right now, so we have plently of room for more students who want to leave the poor performing CCISD schools, and who would like to move to a nice safe town!
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Post 82 April 29, 2008 at 3:08 a.m.
I am VERY concerned about the young woman that had this happen to her. I am shocked that her mother would allow her go on TV, show her face, and tell her story. Her own mother would not allow her face to be shown on TV. CCPD has taken over this case, and I would strongly advise that this young girl hide somewhere to stay safe. According to the news last night a CCPD Det. stated an arrest(s) would be made soon.
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Post 83 April 29, 2008 at 6:20 a.m.
Parental discipline - Oh - like the guy who shot his son over a flat tire with a grandchild on the premise... that'll teach that grandbaby not to mess with grandpa... This problem is multi generational...
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Post 84 April 29, 2008 at 6:40 a.m.
Make the parents responsible for their children’s actions.
Chain gangs painting fences, parents and kids.
Take control or be a victim.
I keep my CHL up to date and I practice weekly. I can hit a paint can at 50 yards 5 out of six rapid fire. :-)
Don’t forget to spay and neuter your gang bangers.
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Post 85 April 29, 2008 at 8:15 a.m.
Thank you post 79. Your input is appreciated.
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Post 86 April 29, 2008 at 9:19 a.m.
I agree with Post 82--I found it really odd that even the media would let this child show her face on TV knowing she's the target of several bullets. This is serious. If I were her, I'd beg to be sent to school elsewhere in another city. I also found it odd that she didn't look fearful at all and was talking so openly about what happened. I don't think she's being very smart about it at all. Many of these kids today will do anything to get attention and look tough.
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Post 87 April 29, 2008 at 9:25 a.m.
Well i do agree with alot of your comments,i agree that it has a lot to do with Ray H.S. why did it have to escalate to this? But are we also forgetting where are the cops...Serve and protect???? Why havent they done anything about this? Why hasnt anyone been arrested? I hear they have the license plate of the car the BOY was driving the night of the shooting,I guess this will be put under the pile of paperwork they have...But when one of the kids die then it will be a big deal..I believe the principals just turned the other cheek on this problem,I just want to know how they will sleep at night when the shooting happens at the school and innocent children are shot,because you are right problems at home follow you to school and vicea versa.. We need to get rid of these DUMB GANGS... FOLLOWERS FOLLOWERS FOLLOWERS...gangs are nothing but dumb followers...We need to teach our children to be LEADERS.
D.G.
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Post 88 April 29, 2008 at 10:14 a.m.
The CCPD officers are too busy at the athletic club picking up other mens wives, when the men are at work. Besides the CCPD are just thugs with badges themselves, have you seen the news lately. The CCPD are in the area news concerning their own illegal ways more than the area gangbangers. Pleas our Police department is a joke.
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Post 89 April 29, 2008 at 10:59 a.m.
So now when its time for school a parent would address their kid:
"Okay honey, have a good time in school today, listen to the teacher and study hard." "Oh and just in case of haterz, theirs some extra hollow points on the kitchen counter."
Seriously, as adults, WE need to get more involved in our kid's lives folks. Know what's going on with your kid.
Sad Times Bro...Sad Times...
Yeah
T Dub J
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Post 90 April 29, 2008 at 11:27 a.m.
the girl on the news last night looked like a little thug herself.
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Post 91 April 29, 2008 at 4:52 p.m.
post 90--She looked totally ghetto--BIG TIME.
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This a little girl. It is no wonder CCISD cares about prosecuting instead of
educating. Then all you anons ready, willing and able to jump on the bandwagon.
Why when CCISD prosecutes parents and their children for absentia because stalking and harassment it makes y'all notice?
are crimes beneficial financially.
